Why Men Do Not Want to Marry

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In other words, continue to fool him until the ring is permanent.

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What do you want? A housewife (many don’t because she’s not bringing in money she’s not doing anything), or a career women (which many don’t because then she can’t be a housewife and take care of the house like a stay at home wife). You can’t have both, there is not enough hours in the day.

What it seems that men want is a friend with benefits wife. We meet up and have sex, but my money is mine, and well your money it goes towards bills because the male works so hard and it’s not fair that his money pays for things in the house or things he doesn’t really want like appliances, knick knacks that make things a home, but if the marriage is over if she leaves with anything she took everything. You don’t want a working women because she’s too independent, but if she is a stay at home wife who cleans, and takes care of the house she’s lazy because she doesn’t work. What you forget is that in these 3rd world countries it seems these men take care of the women (although I’m not even sure about that anymore).

As for marrying these women why do you think they are marrying you?!? You probably treat them a hell of a lot better than their native men. A lot of these women have no rights, you damned right they’re going to marry an American man. There are a lot of times no options for these usually poor women, America is the golden ticket. Honestly I think that quite a few White Western women are spoiled they are expected to be treated like queens and princesses. Some will marry for monetary gain, which a lot of other races don’t have the luxury of having (with some of them having to work because the men of the same race can’t get jobs at times) I bet you wouldn’t see an Indian woman, Latina woman, or African-American woman reaping these “taking men to the cleaners” benefit. Hell most African American women aren’t married because the men aren’t marrying them, or marrying other races.

From last I checked both western spouses have to work to afford a certain lifestyle. I wish people died in their 50′s and 60′s like they did decades ago because by the time these problems came up one of you has a foot in the grave anyway.

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Well I came here looking for advice but unfortunately I didn’t find any that works for me. Not that others wouldn’t benefit from this advice. But I’ve been doing what you suggested for 13 years and all it did was make my husband act like a helpless child who became incapeable of even washing a dish. He will even throw trash around an overflowing garbage can until I get there to take care of it. I spend 13 years doing what HE needed and it got me nowhere. No good education, worked for him and that just meant I worked all the time and him never. As much as I did for him I was never good enough and he became more and more like an infant the more I took on and did for him. Now we hate each other. I’m damned either way with him. If I wait for him to take a shower first so he can have hot water he complains I should have gotten up 2 hours early to do it so I could have a shower first and he would have how water. So If I take the shower first then he complains I didn’t leave enough hot water. I can get up at 6, help kids with getting ready come and clean, go to work for him till 11pm and come home and he’s got trash overflowing and dishes piled up while he was home all day and night with no kids there till 5. I’ve doted on him and made him a priority and all I got was a third child (him) and non stop argument when aren’t exactly right. Oh yeah throw some mental and physical abuse in there to. As for keeping up my appearance, like I said I’m up at 6 and at work from 8AM -11 PM and those 2 hours in the morning is for waking up 2 kids, making breakfast, making lunch, cleaning, homework helping, school dropping and drive to work. Not a whole lot of time to work out when you are not home till 11 and up again at 6 – all while he was at home doing nothing.

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7/10 Western women are simply impossible to marry. They have no self respect, they have no skills in either the traditional role of housework nor the skills of house maintenance slash repair. Very little have conversational skills beyond vapid subjects such as celebrity or local gossip. Very few keep themselves healthy or in shape after High School, let alone when they have careers and are married. And out of the 30% left whom it might be possible to marry (merely possible, not being the ideal) they are taken, shut ins, mentally ill, etc.

Speaking from personal observation, the majority of men I am acquainted with work hard jobs that they often do not like, keep themselves physically healthy, save their money, have college or university degrees in viable subjects, are monogamous in relationships and for the few studs (in shape, nice looking, charming) they have had sex with less then fifteen women by the age of twenty-three. And to boot most of them have been living on their own for several years – so they have good knowledge of house keeping skills, cooking, etc.

The women are opposite to almost a one. Mind you, I’m not calling them down, many are my friends, but they are impossible to date let alone marry. Many are out of shape (and this is ubiquitous amongst many young women – go to the gym and compare the sex ratios), most have debt without working a job or forgoing their fun times to manage it, their university degrees are nearly all in the Arts and mostly Majoring in the oh so useful fields of Psychology, Philosophy, Communications and Sociology. Percentage wise, off the top of my head, at least 50-60% have admitted to cheating on their boyfriends at some point, meaning the real numbers would be 60-80%. Most cannot stay in a relationship, even if the man is nice and caring and when asked why they left it just ‘wasn’t working out’, even though they’re dating a similar man within two weeks who’s major difference is looks or finances or novelty. And finally the grotesque fact that several of them have admitted to having sex with more then fifteen men (majority of the women I know being within the 18-28 bracket). Which, again, due to shame means that the numbers are undoubtedly much higher. And few have lived on their own; most have room mates, have moved in with boyfriends, live in residence (University dorms) and have never had to clean up after themselves, or simply do not know how or are unmotivated to do so.

To help pay for my schooling, I work at a nightclub. The things women do there are absolutely foul. And it’s not a core group of 30-40. Yes, it takes two to tango, but the vast majority of encounters I’ve seen were initiated and perpetrated by the woman.

So by the time one of my friends enters his marrying phase in their late twenties, he’ll at most (and this is extreme) have had sex with ten to twenty different girls. He’ll have a nest egg saved up, minimal debt and be more then ready to settle down. He’ll have a good job and useful home skills. There are two women I know personally whom I can honestly say the same thing about.

Is it any wonder why men don’t want to grab the short stick?

If women want to marry a good, hard working, useful, honest and monogamous man then they better get those qualities themselves. There are too many young men who are aware of the way they’re being manipulated, and it’s never been easier to marry outside of your country or hook up with women to fulfill your sexual desires. I imagine the next few decades are going to see a massive amount of Cougars and Spinsters in the Western world.

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Wow. Yes.

Thank you for understanding and articulating our needs/desires/values surrounding a woman correctly.

I live in North Florida, late-20s; never-married and put-together. Please send one of your readers my way

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to finish what i was saying, they should go to church to pray and thank GOD very much for having a life. it is very amazing how rotten GOD could be to many of us good people, and takes more care of the bad ones. then we have the women that go after men with a very large bank account, and such losers they are.

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i am a straight man that had been married myself at one time before she cheated on me, and i was a very caring and loving husband that was very committed to her as well. i was certainly the one woman man at the time, knowing what i had at home and did not have to go out looking for it anymore. i would love to get married again, if i can only meet the right woman to have a relationship with to see where it can lead too. i am one of so many men that hates being alone and single again, especially with most of my friends that were very fortunate to have met the love of their life and have a family today. when i go out now, i seem to meet so many low life loser women with a very bad attitude problem that are so very hard to start a normal conversation with. i can’t blame myself, since many women nowadays have become so very nasty and are not really looking to meet men anymore like they once did. women have certainly changed over the years, and many women years ago were much easier to meet and were very committed to their men too. there are certainly a lot more women that are into other women that i have really noticed, adding to the problem. this seems to be without a doubt a new trend that much more women prefer other women over us, and with these very disgusting women around just makes it worse for us serious men. i do blame these type of women because i have been cursed at by many women that i would try to talk too, and they will tell me to leave them alone and threaten to call the police on me. so you can see what i mean by so many low life loser women, and all the good ones are married now. i do blame GOD for creating so many people like them that are everywhere these days. the very fortunate men and women that have one another and their families, should really go to church and pray and

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As a 25 year old male i completely agree with being afraid of losing assets. I work very hard for everything I have. I have been with the same girl for 4 years and I honestly love this girl and I am sure I will spend the rest of my life with her but marrige worries me because of the pressure put on it. My girl seems to think marrige would change or relationship and make it better. This worries me because what happens when nothing changes, does she get resentfull? She is not a mean girl but if you put that kind of pressure on something and it doesnt have that magical spark how could you keep from being resentfull of life in general. And I beleive that beleif is what truely ruins relationships and makes many women mean. I know what I would expect from marrige and it is pretty much to be the way we are now, which would be awesome I work with all my strength and love with all my heart though good and bad. But marrige because of the ideas about it seems foolish and not worth the hassle.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20100209024035/http://themenscenter.com/busterb/dont_get_married.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/20100203224454/http://themenscenter.com/busterb/inpraise.htm

“Men helped open up the workplace to women when they demanded it. Men even changed the workplace to make it better than it had ever been when it was only men working. Men introduced new laws to accommodate women in the workplace. A good number of us learned to cook, and even more of us took up scrub brushes and pails of Pine-Sol to help with the cleaning. We learned to do laundry and ironing. We learned to change diapers and how warm the milk should be before baby gets it. Many of us now know more about looking after a home than many women.

After all of this, we get sneering disrespect from junior secretaries who have trouble cooking pasta. Then, when they get tired of us, they divorce us and take the kids, the house, and the car the way their grandmothers did.

If I sound depressed by this modern condition, I am. If I sound nostalgic for the Fifties, I’m not particularly. You see, my dream had always been to marry a woman who made good money. I love cooking; I love kids; I enjoy decorating although I’m not that good at it; I can take or leave cleaning, but I did it for twenty years so I could do it for sixty more without much problem; I can also take a passable crack at repairing a car engine and I can climb ladders and move heavy furniture, which is more than the fabled Fifties housewife could do. I can also, in a pinch, make good money.

Neither am I alone. I have a friend on my sports team who brings cakes and squares after every practice. I have another good friend who does prize-winning needlepoint. A lot of my male friends are single and although, as I’ll freely admit, some of their places are strictly utilitarian, others would surprise you with their tasteful decor. There are still a few “Neanderthal” men out there, but there are also a lot, like me, who have grown up self-sufficient, tidy, and capable in the home.

After all of this, I find that I look around at the single women I know, and I shudder. I listen to them giggling about how stupid and useless men are, and it makes me glad that I can take care of myself. Women think that they have finally arrived at a place where they don’t need men any more. They can make their own money, and modern technology makes much of men’s strengths and skills obsolete. However, I have news for those women who think that this gives them a leg up on us men: many of us don’t need you, either. We can cook, clean, and look after ourselves.

For men like me, the only remaining reason to start an intimate relationship with a woman is her personality.

Which is why so many of us are single.”

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Renee, have u checked out a website called RooshV.com which is run by a PUA (pick up artist) Roosh. He has wrote some articles on how the downsides of feminism have destroyed femininity in many western countries and shows how nonwestern (Eastern European, Asian, South American) women are more feminine. Here are some articles I suggest u read on his website.

“Western Culture Poisons Women” http://www.rooshv.com/western-culture-poisons-women
“7 Ways Feminism Is Destroying American Women” http://www.rooshv.com/7-ways-feminism-is-destroying-american-women
“13 Personality Traits Of Polish Women” http://www.rooshv.com/13-personality-traits-of-polish-women
“42 Things Wrong With American Women” http://www.rooshv.com/42-things-wrong-with-american-women

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No matter how it seems, marriage is always ALWAYS going to be a 2 sided effort. The man should not ignore the woman and the woman should not ignore the man. People have to be conscious of their relationship and how what they say and do to their partner affects that relationship. My woman was feeling quite aroused one day while I was dead asleep at 4 in the morning and even though I wasn’t in the mood myself I took responsibility to appease her emotional state at the time. The fact is in marriage there will be things you don’t want to do, but just like work, children, life, etc you have to pull up your boot straps and GIVE IT YOUR BEST. Yes women want to feel loved, but so do men. Raising children is the responsibility of BOTH parents and both parents have to take part in building their childs character and perception of what a proper relationship should be in the first place.

If you look at a woman (or man) and know their faults as well as whether or not you can cope with their bad points without trying to “change” them. True love means that each person knows themselves (and their faults) and are willing to try to improve themselves for their partner. Its been working out quite well for me and my lady and when something is bothering us we take time to communicate what is wrong.

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Renee,
marriage is a BAD DEAL for men. A VERY BAD DEAL. Try reading my book on my divorce.

When a man who has a stellar career gets a BILL for USD60,000 our of 25 years of labour and EVERYONE SAYS THIS IS OK you have to ask why men will not marry?

And yes. Women are cruel and vicious in using our love for them as weapons against us. No one told me how despicable women could be before I was married. No one.

As one friend of mine said. If men were told the truth about women before marriage no lads would marry. Now that The Truth Be Told is starting to make waves, which will become a Tsunami, the ball is in the court of women in the west. You either lift your game or we will destroy even the idea of a commitment or a relationship between men and women.

I teach lads to have “relaxionships”. While the woman is relaxing to be with, fine. The minute she is no longer relaxing? Get rid of her and get a new one. You women dump husbands of long standing for no reason at all…so don’t be whining that us men are telling lads to dump women who are aggravating them.

The #1 piece of advice I give men is to leave the west and move to germany or further east. There they do not have to deal with bad women nearly so often.

http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=hNKVd0Hr7bU%3d&tabid=753&mid=1703

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Jessica Reply:
September 11th, 2012 at 12:24 am

Man you’re one jaded man… I know a really good relationship therapist in Sydney if you need it..

http://www.andreahaas.com/ she does relationships not just sex.

Let me know how you go and Good Luck.

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Interesting article I’m a 35 year old man, grad degree, high income, body builder, assets, and unmarried. The article by the two Rutgers prof titled are men on a marriage strike, did a fairly good job of explaining a mans point of view in my opinion. They provided some interesting data and the consequences of the state of marriage in today’s society. Life is good

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I have a question about this part:
“Do not deny him sex regularly and do not use it as a commodity …..Don’t do it hoping it will be over soon.”
I think no one is always in the mood.So how a woman can do it (to avoid him feel rejected) & be passionate at the time when she doesn’t feel like it?

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Kitt Reply:
September 1st, 2011 at 9:42 am

Allow him the chance to get you in the mood; fill your mind with loving thoughts and try to give him the best experience you can create— do it for him and with this mindset, if he is trying to get you in the mood, he can’t lose.

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Easy, modern women generally make terrible wives. Most of them prioritize their careers above their men. While a “career” represents some sort of fulfilling self-actualizing phenomenon for women, a career is a job to most men–men must work or we get no respect, no girls, nothing.

So why would a man, who must work hard and hold responsibility as men, marry a woman who won’t appreciate his efforts?

It’s no wonder why more and more US men are looking abroad for traditional women.

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Diana Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 1:24 am

I’m quite surprised at the many negative comments from men on this page.
Yes, you are entitled to your opinions.
However, most of the women here are here because they would like to learn how to become more feminine and more loving, so I find that these comments which complain about how “modern women generally make terrible wives” are quite unecessary, and a little nasty.

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J Reply:
May 26th, 2012 at 7:00 am

Yeah, a lot of men have been through lots of nasty experiences with the modern woman. Now that some women are catching on and realizing the drudgery of working a career, many of them want to be “traditional” again.

To us smarter men, we think these women just want to avoid working and have an easy life of being a homemaker. After all, the divorce laws and family courts favor women anyway.

How can a modern woman lose? She can’t 95% of the time.

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epc Reply:
May 30th, 2012 at 3:08 am

i been through this with a women in the divorce,its not even funny anymore.feminism is nothing but control over the men nowadays,look at a woman the wrong way today and watch how fast you can be arrested,its called mini rape,its bs!

Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) Reply:
September 8th, 2012 at 8:02 pm

Diana,
“I’m quite surprised at the many negative comments from men on this page.”

Why would you call the truth “negative”? Why are you surprised the men are speaking up?

Marriage and divorce are the HOTTEST issue in the world of men because divorce is total disaster for a man and no women even care about talking about it.

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epc Reply:
May 30th, 2012 at 3:05 am

you got that right!todays women are hateful as ever,will never marry a usa woman again.

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michael Reply:
September 4th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

Never marry an Australian one either.

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kyle Reply:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:48 pm

A writer and blogger named “fred” whose blog is “fredoneverything” says that marrying 2nd and 3rd world women is the way to go. His point of view is interesting.

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I thought this question has become a legend Men are not marrying because they afraid the women they married turn to become someone else they don’t even know! In their mind they afraid that after married, they will not as happy as when he is single and the American law sure has scare them much. But if they can sure that the women they love will still the same (at least they still find the good and positive result from trade the freedom with happiness) and the passion and love is still remain, I guess they want to marry and take the risk with the law. Just my simple opinion

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It’s really simple. Men are not marrying because the risk is not nearly worth the reward. The chances are great that you could lose your house, your assets, your income, and your children to a woman who poisons your own children against you. To top it off, he loses the lions share of his income for the next two decades to his ex wife, and therefore cannot save for retirement, that is if he can manage to stay out of debtor’s prison. When he finally comes out from under the debt burden in his mid 40′s, it’s too late to save for retirement. The chances are better than even that he will live most of his adult life, and die, in poverty, while his own children are systematically poisoned against him. This is not the exception in the US today, this scenario is the norm. No matter how independent, beautiful, and wonderful she may be, nothing is worth that risk.

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Liza Reply:
July 27th, 2011 at 9:11 am

Wow.. How sad you’ve been made to feel this way! Even when there is a divorce what you’ve described is not necessarily the rule. I think it depends on the company you keep often times.

Addressing the child issue: I know lots of amicable divorces where, though not the ideal situation for the children, the women do not poison their children against their fathers. I was one of those, yet my husband abandoned his children when he had full opportunity to be involved in their lives. He also never paid a dime in child support and not for a lack of my needing the income.

Unfortunately, I see it from another perspective having now two adult males living with me in their 20′s and I being much older. Yes, this is my son and his friend. My son does not have children but his friend has 5. He regularly complains about paying child support. Here’s the thing.. if you have any idea of the cost of raising a child, in most cases it’s far more than you’d realize. I had to find out the hard way myself. The custodial parent (no longer always the mother) is often awarded barely a fair share of the financial burden and all of the mental, physical and emotional burden in many cases (I will not state this to be the “rule” but it does happen). The custodial parent isn’t in most cases sacking away a ton of money for retirement either! Trust me!! My biggest complaint is that support needs to be mandated by a court system in the first place. If you’re old enough to make the child, you should be mature enough to make sure that his or her needs are supplied in all areas even IF you were the ONLY one supporting that child if it takes EVERY cent you earn and you live in the streets. Sex produces children (in case someone hasn’t figured that out) and whether you’re married or not the scenario you described CAN apply to anyone, male or female. So if you’re going to make the baby, you must be willing to happily live with whatever consequences it takes to support that child adequately whether it’s a good or bad situation. You don’t want to do that.. don’t sleep with someone in the first place.

AND might I add… a piece of paper won’t change that. Marriage and babies are not a joined issue you can have either without the other so that’s no reason not to get married.

Just my thoughts.

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Kevin Reply:
July 27th, 2011 at 9:42 am

Yes, it is precisely the reason a man should not get married. Marriage is a scam.

Go project your feminist bullschnitzle somewhere else.

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Diana Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 1:13 am

Hey Kevin – I understand that you have a right to your own opinion, but I think it was a bit unnecessary to tell Liza to “go project your feminist bullschnitzle somewhere else,” she was just giving her own perspective on divorce and child custody.
I think it’s nice that we’ve got a man’s view (‘No Thanx’) and a woman’s view (Liza) on the same issue, it makes for interesting reading.

epc Reply:
May 30th, 2012 at 3:20 am

lol,love this site,its going to get interesting!

Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) Reply:
September 8th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

Liza Reply:
July 27th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Wow.. How sad you’ve been made to feel this way!

Liza..dont try your “how sad crap” in public when I am around. If you women were at all sad you would be speaking out on behalf of men…but you LAUGH at men who have had their children stolen.

I have been HATED ON for nearly FIVE YEARS by men and women alike. For TWO YEARS I patiently offered women the change to join in re-introducing the rule of law into Australia and Ireland. They refused to. I dropped ALL BUT ONE female friend I had pre divorce I was so disgusted in their behaviour.

Western women are hate filled shrews in the main. Eastern european women are MUCH nicer.

So no…we do not believe your lies about how “sad” you are for us. We seek justice and we seek equality before the law and women are fighting against that every step of the way.

Well? Your hypocrisy is exposed in my work and that work is now rolling out.

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Jon Reply:
December 31st, 2012 at 9:12 pm

The fundamental issue lies in the feminist-influenced court system that favors women.

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Kealia Reply:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:16 pm

I really am sorry you feel this way. I guess my husband and I are the exception to the rule. We’ve been together for 15 years, have one child and are doing great. We cling to one another because we both share the vision of growing old together and being HAPPY. This means having loyalty and respect for one another. We are disgusted with the current state of society, which is very “anti-family” and pro-materialism. Money will never buy happiness. Loving relationships are the key to happiness. There are great women out there that absolutely love their men for their CHARACTER, not their money and I am one of them. I hope you find someone absolutely lovely, that appreciates you for you.

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Zamiis Reply:
August 18th, 2012 at 3:05 am

Dear Kealia,
First, congs for being the first – at least on this page (IF NOT ONLY ONE) to make marriage as enjoyable as you put it. I have no reason to not believe your words. As a researcher, I would certainly be open to new ideas and I believe “Happy marriage” is a theory worth discourse. What would a happy marriage look like? If you feel happy in marriage does it mean your partner to is? Does the silence of gunfire mean security or absence of violence equal to peace? And for that matter does living together for 15years explain that it was ALL “happiness”?

As I said earlier, I’ve not a reason to doubt your words (and honestly wish all best), however, as a divorced father, I seem to sympathize with “NoThanxs” comments above. Again as a researcher, I’ve heard a number of voices sharing the same view of marriage as “NoThanxs”. I would add that I think women take divorce/separation personal and tend to have that unending hatrade….

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We live in a society where all seems to be like the other, it’s too difficoult to be what we really are..

The results is that we live our stereotype lives without being truly ourself..

So the basic of this article is right, only being really what we are is the only way to meet someone special, if not, we will get a lot of Mr/Mrs Mistakes.. since people believe we are just as others and talk with us the same way he used to talk to others just 3 minutes before..

Im a man and i wish to tell you my opinion.. a man would meet a mother, a friend and a lover, all this in the same woman, today it’s very easy to find this qualities.. but in differents women..

a mother: yes.. if she is caring, loving, in a few words like a mother, men feel she will be the right one where finally he may drop his little peter pan in his heart and she will be a good mother also for childrens..also a mother, think about our mothers, at the qualities she has.. men once where child so they knew a lot about a mother’s love.. so they will consider you as the mother only if you have the right qualities that lies in a mother! now try to look at those modern women..they are selfish.. they always offend men dignity using their sexy body to lure their attenction but gives nothing.. they offend men as they all are like peter pan.. yeah we are! because we once used to be child, and we will looking for a woman who REALLY LIKES CHILD! like our mothers! so only those women are able to rise our babies with the real love they deserve.. taking care of our “peter pan” side!

a friend: a friend, a truly friend, will never, and i say NEVER betray you, never.. a friend never judge you, never try to change you, a friend simply likes the way YOU ARE, a friend don’t try to ruin your life, on the other hand a friend try to help and make your life better, a friend is someone who can hold secret and are ready to help you in the middle of the night, share feelings without seems he is judging you, a friend is someone who understand you since a friend knows about life and knows sometimes you will do the same for a truly friend, a friend may be also rude when is the right time but never let you down, never left you alone stranded in your problems.. now try to see all this and other valours that truly friendship means in a modern woman..ok.. don’t waste your time..

a lover: now read and repeat as a mantra: MEN NEED SEX! ok.. now repeat 10 times.. well.. so now you know that man need sex! it doesn’t matter if is a friend, your husband.. a true lover is that woman who knows that HIS man need sex.. and don’t use his sexuality for other reasons, and she “play” with him to find every day the joy to do sex for your pleasure.. but keep in mind that since men, as women, can have the milk without the cow, if you want to become his “cow”, you should also keep in mind the 2 point before.

And the last tip about this situation:

Actually, men doesn’t want to marry women due uneven laws in case of divorce, no peter pan problems, no immaturity issues, unfaithful women, alimnony and uneven laws are the reasons why men today understood marriage is not a good deal anymore. why spend so much money to make everybodies happy but you? men are finally aware of the situation, on what’s going on and get themself, each days, more wise!

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Want to get married? Avoid American women or marry someone in your social/economic circle.

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The presumption of paternity: If she cheats on you and gets pregnant, she can divorce you, get alimony and child support for a kid that’s not even yours.

No fault divorce: THERE IS NO COMMITMENT IN MARRIAGE ANYMORE! Either party can split for any reason at all.

Alimony: She can leave you (no fault) and still take your future earnings, even though it was her choice to leave.

I have a profound respect for happily married couples that borders on hero worship. But the LEGAL ramifications of marriage as they exist today are, to a man, a game of Russian roulette, but with 5 bullets rather than one.

I will never get married. I would love to love a woman for the rest of my life, but I’m not stupid enough to enable her to destroy my life through her own malice or lack of judgment. And then get paid for it!

No. Frikkin. Way!

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Kealia Reply:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:24 pm

“There is no commitment in marriage anymore.”

Kevin, yes there is. Not everyone is the same and some women don’t want to live without their life partners.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) Reply:
September 8th, 2012 at 8:15 pm

Kealia…no there is not. A woman can kick the man out for NO REASON AT ALL and destroy everything he has ever worked for as was my case.

In my case my wife even bragged about how she made up false allegations and slander against me so as to be able to paint me out to be a bad husband…this is a woman who was BEGGING ME TO TAKE HER BACK 6 months earlier…she even BEGGED ME TO TAKE HER BACK after we agreed to divorce….so she went from BEGGING ME TO TAKE HER BACK to “I was abused the whole 18 years I was married” in the space of ONE MONTH.

Her father and son told her to withdraw her lies and slander but she wouldn’t.

People REFUSED to believe so many men report their criminal abuse in the courts so I have released ALL the court documents in my case and even the video of my court meeting in Australia. I was threatened with JAIL and I told the judge I would kill him if he jailed me. So I was never jailed. This link is the book that shows lads what divorce is REALLY like. The TRUTH.

You women who keep lying about divorce would do well to read it to. It is a damning indictment on you women. You women can start to co-operate with me or not. But I will keep denouncing western women with all my strength for as long as I can. That is what it is going to take it seems as you women do NOT want to admit the truth.

There is NO commitment in marriage.

Women destroyed marriage.

http://www.mensbusinessassociation.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=hNKVd0Hr7bU%3d&tabid=753&mid=1703

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Diana Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 1:16 am

Um, Kevin – in terms of “The presumption of paternity” – you can have a paternity test if you really think it necessary . . . it can be presented as evidence in court . . .

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) Reply:
September 8th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

Diana,
in many countries like USA and Ireland the paternity test is irrelevant. Even if the baby is not yours you will pay as the husband.

In my case, in Australia, no paternity test was taken. The test was unilaterally refused by the mother. Even though the legislation says that no child care or allowance for children can be made without the paternity test 95% of assets went to Jennifer.

THAT is what men face…women refuse to even acknowledge this is the case let alone discuss it, let alone denounce it as the crime it is.

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Government laws that promote women to become golddiggers will destroy marriage and families. That hurts women, children and men. There are laws that give women half of the wealth in a marriage to women for being married as little as 3 years (or less). Women will marry men that they do not like, just for the money and they might even half children that they do not want or even like (I am one such child).

In my case what happened.
-My father did not remarry ever(was second marriage). He was given custody of the child.
-My mother went to jail for child abuse(she was bailed out or something), and did other really bad things of which I will not even speak of. She will never see me ever again or receive anything from me (she is the black sheep of her family and no one will even speak of her). She will probably be lonely, as I doubt anyone will love her because of the way she is and probably will continue to be (I don’t wish her harm just a cold analysis).
-I was severely wronged by the governments failure, to protect children form abuse and by government making laws that promote women to marry for money and not for building a family. (not U.S.)

My mother’s premeditated plan: was to marry a man with money. Take half his money and leave the husband with the child. Then come back for the child later (presumably to exploit the child). The plan failed because she abused the child. Bottom line: she was considered to have had evil intentions. She had voiced her intentions before the marriage.

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I dont want to marry an American woman because I dont like being robbed-

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As for Alex’s comments, what a sad commentary. I don’t believe sex is a “commodity” unless someone makes it so. Most people aren’t that hard-boiled and cynical. At least I hope they are not.

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It’s interesting you tell women not to be man bashers or man haters, but yet there are men who bash women all the time, such as that example you put at the start of your article. Why are you giving those men such credence and ignoring what a woman wants or needs in a relationship? If you ask me that man sounds like a complainer who simply doesn’t want to be a responsible adult!

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Sex is a bargaining too in many species because it poses a huge risk to the female. In a feral sense, pregnancy means nine months of weakness, possible death from childbirth, and five or six years of feeding and guarding an extra life. Of course a woman wouldn’t have sex unless the man proved he could provide for her.

However, we have birth control now. Sex no longer poses any serious risk to either party, so I don’t think it should be used as a bargaining chip anymore. The price for sex should be sex. Receive sexual pleasure in exchange for sexual pleasure.

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Peter Pan, I thought the sex was the trick and the home-cooked meals were the rewards…. Am I the monkey now?
I must be crazy!

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Alex

I would want a woman that liked me and enjoyed having sex with me.

I don’t want to bribe someone to have sex. I am not a monkey who needs to do tricks so I can get a reward.

Good luck getting guys to date you for a month and buy you junk and then continue to buy you junk to show you they care. I think you are going to be alone for a long time.

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“It’s true; if I was a man in this day and age, I would be quite put off marriage to many of the the modern women in the Western world. Truth be told, feminism has done some really bad things to the balance of masculine-feminine and to the values of women and men.

The reason why men do not marry is actually really simple. A lot of men feel that there is nothing in it for them!”

Nailed it.

Marriage to a western women is an exercise in futility and will leave you worse off (financially,etc.) than staying single.

I know of many that will never (ever!) marry and those who have been burned and will never marry again. Most don’t even want a serious relationship.

Great job western women. Bed. Lie.

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Katya Reply:
July 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

I know of asian women who do this. It is part of their culture (not all), to chase and entrap wealthy men. I know this from having close friendships with Asians and their families. So why is it only the western womans fault?

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JS Reply:
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 am

Simple.

Asian women GENERALLY don’t do what you mentioned and the divorce laws in Asian countries aren’t so anti-male. They’re ironically more equal than US laws. Most Asian women who marry do it because they believe in commitment through good times and hard times. There are always exceptions, but most Asian women take marriage seriously and try their best to make it work. They generally stay faithful, stay in shape, and stay loving for their husbands, while most American women… well, let’s just say they become unbearable whales.

The divorce rate for Asian couples and American couples is very different. Too many American women take advantage of the lopsided laws and screw their husbands over with a mercenary attitude. In 2011 over 50% of American women are single/unmarried.

Traditional women in foreign countries are the best!

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Take The Red Pill Reply:
February 22nd, 2013 at 6:57 pm

SO true!!

When Western Women rave on and on about how marriage is so wonderful, men should be aware that it IS wonderful – for women, and ONLY for women.
For men, marriage has become just a ‘gilded turd’— no matter what it looks like on the outside, what’s inside is still just plain old sh*t!

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Hey Rob,

Thanks for your kind words. I’m glad you enjoyed the blog.

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Hi Renee,

I just found your articles and am an instant fan!!! I will be showing your site to my wife too, hopefully we can create an even better relationship with your help.

@Alex, your comments throughout this blogspot are quite repugnant to say the least. You obviously have no self respect and no hope of keeping a man, because we men, don’t take that sort of treatment for very long. No matter how “Hot” you look or how “Good” you may be, your “insights” are twisted and bring through an ugliness that is a cancer on today’s society.

Sorry to rant on your site Renee, but “Alex”‘s comments have riled me. I haven’t commented on other posts but “Alex” is highly misguided in my view, this one takes the cake.
Thanks for the site and keep up the good work!

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The safest thing for a woman to do, if possible, is to NOT sleep with a man UNLESS ITS THEIR WEDDING NIGHT although, that’s a little hard for this day and age—I know a couple who were both virgins at 20 and got married that way(with the LORDS help) and the’re still married today

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Hi Renee,
I agree that in a perfect politically correct world, it may not be deemed an exchange of goods and services. Someone once told me, the man isn’t using you when you sleep with him, it’s a shared positive experience. With an emphasis on shared. However, life experience has taught me very differently. Sex is a transaction, prostitution if you like, all women are either whores, or unpaid whores if they get nothing in return for sex. All women expect something from the man before they sleep together, or else they start to feel resentful. It may be as simple as the man doing the washing up to get a woman in the mood. But the man must give to the woman, in return for the woman giving him sex. Women give sex like a gift. And the man must prove that he cares about the woman first. If he really cared about her then he would take her out and buy her things and be nice to her.

Women who give sex freely in a relationship of any sort, are the ones that feel used and resentful – and understandably so. My advice is, if you accept that sexual relationships are an exchange of goods and services then you will start to feel more understanding of the opposite sex. It has been this way since the cave man times. Women would only sleep with a man when he bought home the meal for that night, to ensure that they and their offspring survived and passed on their genes. If there was no meal, or no gift at the end of the night, then there would be no sex.

This is seen even today in tribal cultures untouched by western civilization. The woman only sleeps with a man after he has given her a gift. It’s nature, just accept it. A mother-daughter relationship is much more selfless. It’s a totally different thing.

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Kaye Reply:
January 27th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

I’m going to recommend the website “What Women Never Hear” to you. It tells how men think and why they act and react certain ways.
http://wwnh.wordpress.com/

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Meike Reply:
January 28th, 2011 at 3:08 am

Well this is romantic! And I must disagree. Or else, I would not find a reason why a woman would cheat in a relationship.

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oh and I forgot to add… I wouldn’t date a man exclusively unless he married me. I wouldn’t date him exclusively untill he gives me the ring. Before then, for all he knows, I could be seeing, and sleeping with, other men.

I also wouldn’t sleep with a man, before, at the very least, a month of dating. And he has to take me out and buy me things first if he expects to sleep with me.

And most importantly if I am seeing a man I always keep my own life. I never let a man feel like he has control of me. If he starts to take me for granted, then I mix things up and become slightly more aloof by not answering his calls etc. He quickly starts to appreciate me more. Men don’t respond to words, they respond to no contact.

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I mainly agree with what you say, Renee.

However, I don’t agree when you say “never use sex as a commodity”. Sex is a commodity, always has been! Relationships are an exchange of goods and services. Most women don’t even feel sexual desire unless the man has done something nice for them or given them something nice first, like done the washing and paid for dinner etc. In contrast, men need only to see a woman in lingerie or a sexy outfit to get instantly turned on. A man’s sex drive is free and uninhibited. A woman’s sex drive is much more cautious and vulnerable to different situations. It’s basic biology, the way we are wired. We can’t help it.

I fully condone using sex as a bargaining tool, personally I wouldn’t sleep with a man unless I get something good from him first. Women feel used by sex – and there are far too many times I’ve felt used by giving sex too freely. It only leads to bitterness and resentment.

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Renee Reply:
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:43 pm

Hi Alex

Thanks for sharing I encourage you to consider the metaphor you are using: ‘relationships are an exchange of goods and services” and to think of how it may affect your relationships and your life. Life metaphors are very powerful things!

Saying that relationships (relationships, you said, not specifically intimate relationships, so I am going on the premise that you think relationships in general are an exchange of goods and services?) are an exchange of goods and services implies a business relationship. Which might even imply prostitution – if you use sex to get your man to do things.

Can you imagine how much havoc this would wreak even in a mother-daughter relationship (if you are referring to relationships in general)? I mean, surely a mother-daughter relationship couldn’t be seen as a relationship where it is ‘an exchange for good and services”.

What do you think?

Renee.

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Darrell Reply:
January 25th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

I have to reply to Alex here. If you honestly feel that way, then why should I not just give you $50 for sex huh? Cause you are saying, that you are a PAID WHORE, only will have sex with a man after recieveing some form of “payment”

Renee, I feel you have a great article here. I just want to point out that some women feel this way too. My Girlfriend says she nevers wants to get married again, after her ex and all the divorce crap that she want through.

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dave Reply:
February 16th, 2013 at 9:44 am

Wow! Alex should be a spokeswoman for the INTERNATIONAL MISOGNY CLUB! She has lots and lots of support out there, believe me!

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Go here for an earfull: http://markymarksthoughtsonvariousissues.blogspot.com/

P.S. Bad language. But he does have some interesting things to say.

This was a great post, btw.

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I accept your reply for the above problem. When we are talking about sex, most important thing is the psychological approaching for sex. Especially men need women to be pleasant when they are approaching sex. I know this because I am a man.

I hope to write some articles to my site about sex and the nature in future.You can also read these in future.

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